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    Quote Originally Posted by John53 View Post
    Essentially you're saying God will deceive someone because he knows that is what they want? Which in my opinion would be a contradiction to what Jesus said in Luke 15, it also makes Yahweh a sinner.
    We differ in opinion.

    I'd have to read more of the chapter and will try to do that later today and give you an answer.
    Okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Indeed. The matter is complex. It is so complex that people have warred over it, tortured over it, and made up all manner of excuses to justify it.



    Really? Can *God* lie? No, *God cannot lie* (Numbers 23:19; First Samuel 15:29; Psalm 89:35; Hebrews 6:18)

    God can lie and deceive by proxy through sanctioned agents (1Kings 22:22; Second Thessalonians 2:10,11)



    This is your *God?* A 'throw my hands in the air like I just don't care' deity? C'mon Dottie, wouldn't a Supreme Being not be thwarted by the will of those *He* created?
    more aptly God "walled off Pharoh's heart" (denies salvation to some) per the Torah.

    and per the Koran (per all Infidels).

    Maybe God does just that.


    i'm just a hell bound Atheist and no nothing of God's nature.

    just pointing out Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post



    But wait a minute, God does not tempt anyone according to James 1:13. OH, and yes, the words for 'tempt' and 'test' and 'prove' are the same in English. Whether here in James 1:13 or in Deuteronomy 13:3.
    God "Tested" Job.

    anyone that has read that work know this!

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    How does any of this help the man whose God publicly lied about him to another follower of the same God?
    The hound of Jewish monotheism.

    "For us there is one God. He is the Father." (I Corinthians 8:6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post

    If *God* allows it but knows how to prevent [moral] evil while doing nothing to stop it from happening, what does that say about *God?*
    you negate the purpose of "Evil"

    I think "evil" may have value (maybe - just pondering here).............if it does then you may have not reason to dissparage God/s.

    just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattathias View Post
    How does any of this help the man whose God publicly lied about him to another follower of the same God?
    ??

    this is like "my God said you are not a follower of my God"?

    last time i checked there is no record in the modern era of God speaking ill to another man about a fellow follower of the same god.

    lol.

    just one guy pointing and accusing the other of not doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaffo View Post
    last time i checked there is no record in the modern era of God speaking ill to another man about a fellow follower of the same god.
    Check again. It happened on this board on July 25, 2017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnl View Post
    He allows the free will of men to accept His truths or the serpentís lies.
    unless you are Pharoh.

    then he prevent you for seeing Him.............to serve a "higher purpose" (the exodus in this particular).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattathias View Post
    Check again. It happened on this board on July 25, 2017.
    ???

    why must you be so cryptic Matt?

    I like you anyway - lol.

    its not like i live here!

    lol.

    help me out here please.

    ;-).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaffo View Post
    why must you be so cryptic Matt?
    I'm not being cryptic. I gave you the exact date when it occurred. The names of both parties involved in the incident have been mentioned.

    P.S. I can even give you the exact time of day it happened: 11:37 a.m. EST.
    The hound of Jewish monotheism.

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