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    Is Homosexuality Wrong?


    “Growing up, one of the most difficult things I had to deal with was my attraction to others of the same sex. I used to think it was just a phase, but those feelings plague me still.”—David, 23.

    David is a Christian who wants to please God. Can he do that while feeling attracted to those of the same sex? How does God really feel about homosexuality?



    Attitudes about homosexuality may vary from one culture to the next or from one time period to another. But Christians aren’t governed by popular opinion or “carried here and there by every wind of teaching.” (Ephesians 4:14) Instead, they base their view of homosexual conduct (and any other kind of conduct, for that matter) on the standards set forth in the Bible.

    The Bible’s standard regarding homosexual acts is clear. God’s Word says:

    “You must not lie down with a male in the same way that you lie down with a woman.”—Leviticus 18:22.
    “God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, . . . gave them over to uncontrolled sexual passion, for their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature.”—Romans 1:24, 26.
    “Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.”—1 Corinthians 6:9, 10.
    In reality, God’s standards apply to all people, whether they have homosexual desires or heterosexual desires. The fact is, everyone must exercise self-restraint when it comes to urges to engage in conduct that displeases God.—Colossians 3:5.

    Does that mean . . . ?

    Does that mean the Bible promotes hatred of gays?

    No. In fact, the Bible doesn’t promote hatred of anyone—gay or straight. Rather, it tells us to “pursue peace with all people,” regardless of their lifestyle. (Hebrews 12:14) So it’s wrong to engage in bullying, hate crimes, or any other type of mistreatment of homosexuals.

    Does that mean that Christians should oppose laws that allow same-sex marriage?

    The Bible shows that God’s standard for marriage calls for the union of one man and one woman. (Matthew 19:4-6) However, discussions of human laws on same-sex marriage relate to a political issue, not a moral one. The Bible tells Christians to remain politically neutral. (John 18:36) Therefore, they neither advocate nor oppose governmental laws involving same-sex marriage or homosexual conduct.

    But what if . . . ?

    But what if someone currently practices homosexuality? Can that person change?

    Yes. In fact, some in the first century did so! After stating that those who practice homosexuality will not inherit God’s Kingdom, the Bible says: “That is what some of you were.”—1 Corinthians 6:11.

    Does that mean those who stopped practicing homosexuality no longer felt any inclination toward their former lifestyle? No. The Bible says: “Clothe yourselves with the new personality, which through accurate knowledge is being made new.” (Colossians 3:10) Change is an ongoing process.

    But what if someone who wants to follow God’s standard still has homosexual urges?

    As with any urge, a person can choose not to nurture or act on those urges. How? The Bible says: “Keep walking by spirit and you will carry out no fleshly desire at all.”—Galatians 5:16.

    Notice that the verse doesn’t say that the person will have no fleshly desire. Instead, armed with a good spiritual routine of Bible study and prayer, he or she will have the strength to resist those desires.

    David, mentioned at the outset, found that to be true—especially after he confided in his Christian parents about his struggle. “It was a tremendous burden off my shoulders,” he says, “and I probably would have enjoyed my teen years a lot more if I had talked to them sooner.”

    In the end, we are happier when we conform to Jehovah’s standards. We are convinced that they “are righteous, causing the heart to rejoice,” and that “in keeping them, there is a large reward.”—Psalm 19:8, 11.

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    Chastity and homosexuality


    2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,[141] tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."[142] They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.


    2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.


    2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.


    141 Cf. Gen 191-29; Rom 124-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10.
    142 CDF, Persona humana 8.


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    At the present time there are those who, basing themselves on observations in the psychological order, have begun to judge indulgently, and even to excuse completely, homosexual relations between certain people. This they do in opposition to the constant teaching of the Magisterium and to the moral sense of the Christian people.


    A distinction is drawn, and it seems with some reason, between homosexuals whose tendency comes from a false education, from a lack of normal sexual development, from habit, from bad example, or from other similar causes, and is transitory or at least not incurable; and homosexuals who are definitively such because of some kind of innate instinct or a pathological constitution judged to be incurable.


    In regard to this second category of subjects, some people conclude that their tendency is so natural that it justifies in their case homosexual relations within a sincere communion of life and love analogous to marriage, in so far as such homosexuals feel incapable of enduring a solitary life.


    In the pastoral field, these homosexuals must certainly be treated with understanding and sustained in the hope of overcoming their personal difficulties and their inability to fit into society. Their culpability will be judged with prudence. But no pastoral method can be employed which would give moral justification to these acts on the grounds that they would be consonant with the condition of such people. For according to the objective moral order, homosexual relations are acts which lack an essential and indispensable finality. In Sacred Scripture they are condemned as a serious depravity and even presented as the sad consequence of rejecting God.[18] This judgment of Scripture does not of course permit us to conclude that all those who suffer from this anomaly are personally responsible for it, but it does attest to the fact that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered and can in no case be approved of.
    (Persona Humana)

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    12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”
    "You [the Father], the Only True God" -- Jesus Christ (1st Century CE)

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    What this shows is that your idea of god is one who likes to torment some of his creations more than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerh View Post
    What this shows is that your idea of god is one who likes to torment some of his creations more than others.

    Roger
    Yeah, like in birth deformities, brain damage, auto accidents, disease, etc., etc., etc.

    What this shows is your grasp of reality is a little dim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerh View Post
    What this shows is that your idea of god is one who likes to torment some of his creations more than others.

    Roger
    How is it God's fault?
    That we all have certain weaknesses that we have to deal with in no way means God gave us those weaknesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBax View Post
    How is it God's fault?
    That we all have certain weaknesses that we have to deal with in no way means God gave us those weaknesses.
    But god knew all this before he started it up. He knew Eve would be tempted, he created the snake, he knew Adam would eat too.

    Knowing all this he did nothing to prevent it.

    Or so the story goes....

    Roger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerh View Post
    But god knew all this before he started it up. He knew Eve would be tempted, he created the snake, he knew Adam would eat too.

    Knowing all this he did nothing to prevent it.

    Or so the story goes....

    Roger
    I don't believe that God foreknew such. God gives free will to his intelligent creatures. Eve wasn't destined to sin, and Adam was not destined to sin. It was their choice. Just like we have life and death before us, and must choose.

    God can choose to foreknow certain things. There is no indication God chose to foreknow this particular thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBax View Post
    I don't believe that God foreknew such. God gives free will to his intelligent creatures. Eve wasn't destined to sin, and Adam was not destined to sin. It was their choice. Just like we have life and death before us, and must choose.

    God can choose to foreknow certain things. There is no indication God chose to foreknow this particular thing.
    Then he's not omniscient, he's ignorant.

    Not very godlike IMHO but then neither is his bad temper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerh View Post
    Then he's not omniscient, he's ignorant.

    Not very godlike IMHO but then neither is his bad temper.

    Roger
    Godlike is controlling everyone and everything? Or allowing freedom, and the right to choose, without being scared. You Roger, are much more limited in your abilities and knowledge then God, and have a false idea of what is appropriate. It is haughty to assume you know better.
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