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    "ALL TRUTH is safe, and nothing else is safe; and he who keeps back the truth, or withholds it from men, from motives of expediency, is either a coward or a criminal, or both".

    MAX MULLER, The Science of Religion, p. 11.
    "Truth has no expiry date. Lies do." ~ A.D. Williams

    "Error in history leads to the error in doctrine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagittarius View Post
    Quote of the day:

    "ALL TRUTH is safe, and nothing else is safe; and he who keeps back the truth, or withholds it from men, from motives of expediency, is either a coward or a criminal, or both".

    MAX MULLER, The Science of Religion, p. 11.
    Truth is a person, Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagittarius View Post
    Quote of the day:

    "ALL TRUTH is safe, and nothing else is safe; and he who keeps back the truth, or withholds it from men, from motives of expediency, is either a coward or a criminal, or both".

    MAX MULLER, The Science of Religion, p. 11.
    Truth is simply the truth.
    Some people, however, hate the truth, and thus prefer darkness rather than light.

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    This can not be Truth, Smoke, because THERE WAS NO Nazaret when Christ was born, not even when He was crucified.

    However, there were Nazarenes, and there was Sepphoris next to the present city of Nazaret.
    Sepphoris was the capital city of Galille, and Nazarenes were living in this city

    Who were those Nazarenes ???
    "Truth has no expiry date. Lies do." ~ A.D. Williams

    "Error in history leads to the error in doctrine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagittarius View Post
    Quote of the day:

    "ALL TRUTH is safe, and nothing else is safe; and he who keeps back the truth, or withholds it from men, from motives of expediency, is either a coward or a criminal, or both".

    MAX MULLER, The Science of Religion, p. 11.
    Would you say the bible withholds truths?

    Or would you say the bible hides or obfuscates truths?

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    Truth is that which corresponds to reality. It is that which is veridical. Not sure everything in the Bible corresponds?

    Or from the Devil's Dictionary: An ingenious compound of desirability and appearance. Discovery of truth is the sole purpose of philosophy, which is the most ancient occupation of the human mind and has a fair prospect of existing with increasing activity to the end of time.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can also make you commit atrocities

    - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagittarius View Post
    Quote of the day:

    "ALL TRUTH is safe, and nothing else is safe; and he who keeps back the truth, or withholds it from men, from motives of expediency, is either a coward or a criminal, or both".

    MAX MULLER, The Science of Religion, p. 11.
    Another thing...

    if everybody comes to know a truth, then there is no competitive advantage to knowing that truth;

    if only a very few know a truth, there might be a competitive advantage to knowing that truth.

    Perhaps an example of this: whoever has the patent to make refrigerator coolant (the chemistry and such);

    only a few enterprises know this truth: and it is therefore valuable to these few enterprises;

    but if a different kind of refrigerator became mass produced and used, and it used water instead of refrigerator coolant, then the refrigerator coolant would no longer be valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ludwig View Post
    Truth is simply the truth.
    Some people, however, hate the truth, and thus prefer darkness rather than light.
    That sounds good doesn't it? I mean it resounds with religious people.....what what does it actually mean? That's my question.

    Some people hate the truth, so they prefer darkness to light. So, you've equivocated, in a very real sense, because now by analogy you've made truth and not-truth just like darkness and light.

    They are alike in the sense that truth and not truth are exactly the opposite things, as darkness and light are.....however - both darkness and light are truth. So, the analogy just fails.....IMO.....though sounding really good at first glance.

    But please correct me if I am wrong.....how do people hate truth and love darkness instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagittarius View Post
    This can not be Truth, Smoke, because THERE WAS NO Nazaret when Christ was born, not even when He was crucified.

    However, there were Nazarenes, and there was Sepphoris next to the present city of Nazaret.
    Sepphoris was the capital city of Galille, and Nazarenes were living in this city

    Who were those Nazarenes ???
    This would be verey incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    Truth is a person, Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God.
    That's the standard Christian response. Thanks to John 14....right? Let's say you're right smoky. If so, then there is no more truth because Jesus isn't here anymore; and he really never was everywhere was he? He never left Palestine. So, the only truth that is resided for a short time and in one specific, and very small place in the entire big marble. Yeah.....uh.....nope.

    That really just doesn't actually make much sense - does it smoky?

    I'll tell you what. You go get yourself a nice solid chunk of wood, or a bat, or a hammer.....or whatever solid object comes to hand....and smash yourself in the head with it. That will hurt. That is truth.
    If you want to get to heaven; you've got to raise a little hell. If you want to know a secret, you've got promise not to tell.

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