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    The Hill reports that Michael Flynn resigned tonight:

    National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has resigned, after reports he misled senior Trump White House officials about his conversations with Russia.

    President Trump has named retired Army Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg as acting national security adviser. Kellogg previously served as Flynn’s chief of staff on the National Security Council.

    The embattled Flynn blamed his resignation late Monday on the “fast pace of events” that led him to “inadvertently” give Vice President Mike Pence and others “incomplete information” about his phone conversations with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak.

    “I have sincerely apologized to the president and the vice president, and they have accepted my apology,” Flynn wrote in his resignation letter.


    Pence had defended Flynn's contacts with Russia, and when it became clear the national security adviser had not been forthcoming, serious questions were raised about his ability to keep his job. Flynn’s sudden exit comes just 24 days into Trump’s presidency and represents a dramatic overhaul of his team of senior aides that has been consumed by controversy.

    Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency was a trusted adviser to Trump throughout the 2016 campaign, but was seen as a controversial figure by many inside and outside the White House.

    He noted his friendship with the president in his resignation letter, thanking him for “his personal loyalty” and adding, “this team will go down in history as one of the greatest presidencies in U.S. history.”

    Flynn’s longstanding ties to Russia sparked concerns among U.S. officials and members of Congress in both parties.

    His future at the White House had been the topic of intense speculation since last Friday, after reports first emerged that he backtracked on his denial that he talked about sanctions against Russia for its election-related hacking with its top envoy in the U.S.

    The Justice Department reportedly warned Trump White House counsel Don McGahn shortly after Trump’s inauguration that Flynn may have been vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians due to discrepancies between what he told Kislyak and Pence.

    Pence and others publicly said Flynn never discussed sanctions against Russia during his pre-inauguration conversations with Kislyak. Flynn later admitted the topic may have came up during his talks with the ambassador.

    Relying on Flynn’s account, Pence told CBS News in mid-January that Flynn “did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia.”

    The vice president was reportedly angered after a Washington Post report was published last week claimed Flynn did discuss the sanctions, and he later apologized to Pence. But that apparently was not enough for Flynn to save his job.

    While it was clear Flynn was skating on thin ice, his status was a mystery throughout most of the day Monday.

    Trump stayed silent on Flynn’s status; he was not asked about it during a news conference with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, while his senior aides sent mixed signals to the press about Flynn’s future.

    Senior counselor Kellyanne Conway said he enjoyed the “full confidence” of Trump on Monday afternoon. But soon after, press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters the president was “evaluating” the Flynn situation with the vice president.

    Spicer was unequivocal, however, when asked whether Trump has been aware that Flynn was speaking about sanctions with the Russian ambassador.

    "No, absolutely not,” the spokesman said.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-flynn-resigns

    This was after Kellyanne Conway declared Flynn had the full confidence of Trump. Its called plausible deniability and it first surfaced in the Reagan administration when Reagan claimed he had no knowledge of Oliver Norths actions. When he traded missiles for the Iranian hostages just so he could win the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste View Post
    The Hill reports that Michael Flynn resigned tonight:
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-flynn-resigns

    This was after Kellyanne Conway declared Flynn had the full confidence of Trump. Its called plausible deniability and it first surfaced in the Reagan administration when Reagan claimed he had no knowledge of Oliver Norths actions. When he traded missiles for the Iranian hostages just so he could win the election.
    Now he's back by popular demand . Sorry............ ...............And that's from the democrats too !.........m
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    Rumor has it that Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer are also on the chopping block "because they're seen as being weak."

    True or not The Hill reported it. I have no personal knowledge of it. We'll see in the morning wont we?

    Russia Today, Russia’s state broadcaster, drew attention online Monday night, after it tweeted that National Security Advisor Michael Flynn had “retired.”

    Flynn resigned late Monday, after reports that he misled senior Trump White House officials about his conversations with Russia.

    The embattled Flynn blamed his resignation on the “fast pace of events” that led him to “inadvertently” give Vice President Mike Pence and others “incomplete information” about his phone conversations with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak.

    Pence had defended Flynn's contacts with Russia, and when it became clear the national security adviser had not been forthcoming, serious questions were raised about his ability to keep his job.

    Social media users focused on the RT phrasing as it reported the resignation as a retirement.
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    Trump's obvious lies make it impossible to believe anything he says that might be true. His presidency is falling apart fast.

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    Nothing says competent president more then firing multiple senior staff before you even get a full cabinet. Grab popcorn..watch the disaster show.
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    a) if it's a disaster, then you guys should be happy...right? Might actually help you win an election someday.
    b) had Flynn stayed, the Left would continue to harp on it.....he had to be fired. Not to please the Left (who think they've gotten a scalp) but a sign to Trump's supporters that he won't tolerate poor staff performance....this isn't a bad thing. You'd rather he keep staff on that aren't performing well?
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    Actually I would rather him choose people who are more liberal but then I guess that is not going to happen.

    Now that Flynn is gone, will the US still eliminate those pesky sanctions on Russia? and if not will Tillerson resign also? Half a billion dollars suggests it is possible.

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    What did the president know and when did he know it? Flynn did not act alone. This investigation is just getting started. And it's gonna be good!
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    Plausible deniability will save Trump, even hypothetically if it was recorded, Trump will deny it. Flynn is the new version of Oliver North.

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    It is delicious indeed to see the "competent" business man who is going to "drain the swamp" going down in flames before his cabinet has ever been approved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeste View Post
    The Hill reports that Michael Flynn resigned tonight:
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-flynn-resigns

    This was after Kellyanne Conway declared Flynn had the full confidence of Trump. Its called plausible deniability and it first surfaced in the Reagan administration when Reagan claimed he had no knowledge of Oliver Norths actions. When he traded missiles for the Iranian hostages just so he could win the election.
    I'll be more impressed when you are as exercised by Hillary's criminal actions in breaking the law and violating national security as you are about Flynn's non-criminal action.

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