If God looks forward in time and sees the choices of a man, what is he looking at? He is not a fortune teller. He is looking at his own creation. Everything that exists is made form things that are not. That is, God has made everything, and nothing functions in any other way than God created it to function. So when he is looking forward at Eve's choice, He is looking forward at his creation playing out. And if it is his creation and, seeing what it produces, he goes ahead with the creation, then He is purposing those things which he has created to come to pass. From the beginning the works were completed.
And it's funny that you quote Romans 9, because I understand that chapter to be confirming that point.
God set before them the way to life, and the way to death. He said choose life, that you may live. What he did not say is: This is life eternal, that you might choose to do the law, and live. God giving the law to Israel is not a statement about how we attain life. Yes, if they could keep it they would find life. But could they? Did they? No. But along comes Jesus, and he says "My Father in heaven, he does the works. Of myself I can do nothing.", when everyone else was saying, "We have eternal life in the scriptures". It's no surprise to me that he was the first to fulfill it.God has already made the commandment. "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:" Who am I to argue with God.
But it seems you are saying that I should do it like Israel were trying to, rather than Jesus? It makes more sense to me to do it they way Jesus did it. To get to a point were we can say "Of myself I can do nothing. It is my Father who is working in me, both to will and to do of his good pleasure. He does the works." How can we say that while we are still in the state of mind: choose to do good?
Where is this church you keep speaking of? The day I hear that preached at a church, I'll probably leap up in the air and cry "Hallelujah!!". All I hear is "God will only do so much, we have to do the rest". "God wants us to be saved, but we have to choose to want it." And that is all I hear on this forum, when I comes to that question. And it has come to it often enough in my time here.From Eve's example I also learn about another spirit, another voice; "But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.". This is the serpent who reasons with us in our mind.
"Oh, you can't choose God/ life, God/life chooses you" "no man can choose God/ life, it's impossible" And on and on from every MC teacher in the land.
Joh 15:16* Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
And how did Jesus choose them?:
Joh 17:9* I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Joh 6:44* No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
If the bible is so clear that we are judged by our choices, why does it use the word "works" instead? If it meant choices, why not say choices? I know that you see the two words as interchangeable, but they are not.The Bible doesn't support the teaching that God has a secret lottery that He uses to choose His elect. The Bible is clear that we are judged by our choices. We can choose to subject ourselves to His judgments, or we can choose not to.
We cannot choose to subject ourselves to God's judgements at all.
Rom 8:7* Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
We cannot even comprehend God's judgements:
1Co 2:11* For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.*
1Co 2:14* But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.*
We start from the standpoint of not knowing the truth. We are led to the desire to seek after God. We are choosing our own path, because we do not yet have faith, and we do not hear God. But the important point is, we are divising our way, but God is directing our steps. And we labour to find the truth, because we know no other way. Until we have learned where truth comes from, that is, God, not us. After we have found the truth, and found faith, and know that God has already completed our works, then we rest form our own works. Resting from our own works does not mean "down tools". It means exactly what Jesus said: "My Father works hitherto, and I work", and "He does the works", and "I by the finger of God cast out devils", and as Paul said: "if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world."4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
And again, "1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
What it means is that we are no longer seeing our works as a thing that is originating from us, but as the purpose of God, when he completed the works at the foundation and said "It is very good."
No, it is not God's "fault", because God didn't do anything faulty. All he did was create a creature that did not have the capacity to be like Himself of itself. He put that creature in a garden, gave it an instruction, and the creature did what it had the capacity to do. The creature desired to be wise, and seeing that the tree could give it to her, and that it looked good to eat, she decided to eat it. God did not twist her hand, she did it of her own choice. But God created her mind that made that choice; every aspect of it. So what fault is with God? For creating a creature that is less righteous than himself? No the fault is with the creature, for thinking it can be as righteous as it's creator. But Eve had not yet had the opportunity to learn the faith that was required to attentively hearken to God. Her fault is that she failed to do what she believe she could do of herself. The fault is thinking she could be like God.It's not God's fault that Eve didn't chose His Word over the serpent. It wasn't that God didn't want Eve to make the right choice, it was that He wasn't going to make it for her. Has she "labored" and "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil" the outcome would have been different as other examples show us.
We can put on the "whole" armor of God, or we can choose to reason things out in our own mind.
God's purpose in creation was not to create a faithful creature from the outset. If it was, he would have. Instead he decided to teach it faith. He had already decided to create a son who would sacrifice himself for all others, before he had even thought of creating Eve, I believe.
Rev 13:8* And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Joh 12:24* Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
Isa 46:10* Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
If you think about it, that last means pretty much nothing, if the playing out of God's own creation is not considered as part of him doing all his pleasure.