Impose/force/demand it be accepted? Uh no Richard. This is open forum that ANYONE can state their views. No one is forced to read or accept what one says.
Originally Posted by Richard Gillett
That pretty much sounds like YOUR VIEW. However, you are VOID of any example, so YOUR VIEW is without teeth.
Except that it does not say what you claim it does. You take a single sentance out of context and impose your own values onto it or treat it with no respect to what is around it. ie quoting without context. And you marry proverbial chalk and cheese
It is not vain to reveal not everyone has understanding. It is taught in scripture.
Seems you wanted to speak about Water Baptism. I personally do not see the benefit of Water Baptism.
only because you fail to ralise what I am reerirring to or see what I claim
I know your posts. and yes you do claim the choice,
Well perhaps you would like to apply your assessment to what Jesus says; (which I agree with Jesus) which is:
a hobson choice, or the choice of a man with a gun at his head. IOW no choice at all.
Matt.12  He that is not with me is against me;
So, I think that pretty efficient. A man can CHOOSE Christ. And if a man thinks he can play a fools game by sitting on the fence post, that notion is quashed. Jesus came to divide. And the division is either WITH or WITHOUT Him. Simple.
The past is over with.
I hardly find speaking of baptism of the Holy Spirit off on a tangent under a title of a tread called:
No, I am asking you to stick to the Op and not go off on a tangent. This thread is about water baptism, not the Holy Spirit.
Some ideas on Baptism
Perhaps I found no question to make a remark.
You have not answered my post
LOL ~ far out Richard. I asked for no such thing.
You want an example of bad quoting? you just did it.
except that is not the OP
I responded to the thread title.
I am not dismissing the Holy Spirit. it is just not what Celeste
was discussing. Read the OP!
I have made not judgement as such. There is no judicial sentance nor consequence in my words.
I'm blunt. I expound. I communicate a lot with the deaf, so that is my teaching style. It benefits them. If you are hearing, you have an advantage, and can challenge whether what I speak is true or not. Other than that, I have nothing to prove.
I am sorry but thatis not the tone of your posting
I speak for myself and can only wonder about others who dance in circles. If you have something to claim for yourself, claim it. It's not vanity, it's your truth is all.
The vanity is that you might think you have something I have not
If you are sensitive and require sugar coating in all responses to you, reveal it.
Again that is not what comes across. Perhaps you should read you own words from the angle of the receiver?
I am studied, and not lax. I absolutely know what I ask God for and trust Him explicitly. I serve Him, not the feelings of others.
The point is the tone of your posting and the assertiveness of it.
I CHOSE CHRIST'S way, and absolutely testify for His WAY. I will testify of Him, His WAY, and you and anyone else can choose whatever y'all want.
Even if you claim a choice you make it damn certain which you think someone should chose.
If that is true, why is it YOUR words that appear, and not a quote of my words?
I suggest you read what you said. You claimed that I cannot have the Holy Spirit if I do not concur with you!
Okay, accepted, however I did not find anything for you to apologize for.
I have changed the thrust, and my only apology is that it is directed, personally at you.
Now read again what I said. Read it. Understand it. Reject it if you must, but understand this:
I prefer to deal in facts. If you find cause to state what I say is not true....quote it, challenge it.
I am trying to point out an error in your ways,
not condemning you or claiming you not to be a Christian or not to have the Holy Spirit.
Never said or implied He does. And have expressly stated the Holy Spirit guides a mans spirit in his heart.
Just remember that the Holy Spirit does not guide your hand,
I am fully aware of what I ask God for, what comes from my heart and what comes solely from my mind.
or ensure that you are understanding fully what He is saying.
Not wholly true. Christ does some writing in my heart and does put words in my mouth.
Ultimately it is Rachael who writes, not the Holy Spirt.
And often I have said on this forum; vague accusations mean nothing to me. Challenge me on the truth of what I say.
And you never know Rachael might occasionally be wrong, or at least be writing her own opinions.
Ditto back to you as well Richard.
Blessings and no hard feelings
Praise and Glory to Lord God Almighty, for His Great Name's Sake.