"He has shown you, O man, what is good and what the Lord requires of you. But to do justly..and to love mercy...and to walk humbly with your God."
I don't know what that disturbing bit of fundamentalist Religious Dogma, had to do with The Theory of Evolution. I suppose Atheist, who choose not to be tethered to any book of fables, myths, miracles, violence, talking snakes and donkeys, inconsistencies and contradictions, must also accept the possibility of being attacked by the most delusional of Religious fundamentalists. It's not easy being free. There will always be those that want you attached to their Religious shackles, so that they can bathe in their own self-sustaining ego-gratification. The most dangerous, disturbing people in the world, are those that KNOW they're right. The most honest people in the world, are those that KNOW they could be wrong. But the best people in the world, are those that wear no shackles at all. These people never rationalize their position, by asserting lies, insults, threats, sarcasm, pompous arrogance, or just being annoying. These people rely on their intelligence, evidence, logic, and their honesty, to support their position.
We are all 4-Dimensional human beings, living within a 4-Dimensional reality, regardless of what our beliefs are. It seems to me, that the ultimate tragedy, is to be born in a world of mystery, wonderment, beauty, and complexity, and wish you were somewhere else. Truly sad! Don
Their Bible-readin' is coached by God himself. So it cannot be wrong.
Anything else must of needs be devil spawn of some sort, and as such,
only evil attends it.
It is of at least passing note that other than just thumpin' the bible and saying
that "God's word" is against evolution, they have nothing to offer against it.
Nothing, that is, other than lets see..misrepresentation, fake quotes, nutty nonsense like
Paluxy mantracks, strawmen, ignorance, and of course, just plain lies.
Now, why it is that those with the Bible, the Angels, Almighty God, and all the universe on their side would find it necessary to stoop to such, in order to be able to present any "evidence" at all on their side?
Almost enough to make a person think maybe there is a Satan and that he finds
easy picking for his deceptions among the less educated.
Regarding the impossibility of being an informed yet intellectually honest yec, we again
quote Dr K Wise. As a PhD paleontologist, he is aware of the evidence problem for yecs, hence this statement:
I am a young-age creationist because that is my understanding of the Scripture. As I shared with my professors years ago when I was in college, if all the evidence in the universe turned against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate. Ed. note: Although Scripture should be our final authority, Christianity is not a blind faith
Isnt that terrific? The very definition of intellectual dishonesty. How things happen to seem to him beats all actual evidence in the universe. Odd that the editor might find occasion for that hilariously ironic note!
I wonder if "God" would approve.
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Are you saying, that there is no test, no observation, or no repeatable tests , that proves reality exists? Just what reality do you live in? Don
isnt that a marfvellous line from Shel? Outdoes even himself some times.Shel
Why should I want a clue about it? It is simply a theory to try to disprove a Creator.
So much dopiness in so few words!
There is the preschool kid attitude as toward new food, "I dont like it, what is it"
and the clueless notion that a theory or anything else could be utllizied to try to disprove a creator (God).
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But here we have an ever-expanding universe, already so vast as to challenge our most powerful instruments, and which God created just for us - apparently (as Shelby, I think has informed us) so we might gaze into the night sky, see all those stars and marvel at the wondrous works of God. Not that we would have known that the majority of those points of light are entire galaxies, each with billions of star system and each with an invisible black hole at its centre.
If it's already so unnecessarily vast, why is God creating even more space for it to expand into?
Or perhaps he created all the space it'll ever need on the second day of creation, but does anyone know what happened to the waters which he made it in the middle of? (Well, obviously Creationists do; they just haven't told us).
Never underestimate the power of unreason to overwhelm reason
Bill was fascinated, and agreed to go with them to meet others Believers. When he arrived at the hall, there were about 60 people, who treated him like a God. Anything he did or said was welcomed with keen interest and open arms. He really loved the attention. The Believers only asked that he give them a small donation, wear a green arm band, maintain their anonymity, and be completely loyal. No more ridicule, or being picked on. Billy now had a purpose in life, and couldn't be happier. His parents noticed a new spring in his step, and his classmates notice a change in his personality. All was going great until one day in his Biology class. The teacher was explaining to the class, all about the Reproduction System. Of course Billy had a cheshire grin throughout the lecture, because he had information(truth) no one else had. Anyway when the teacher admitted that he didn't know what created the first life, Billy just couldn't contain himself any longer. He immediately shouted out with confidence, "The CrockaDucks from Space did it 10,000 years ago, don't you know that". Students from all over the school looked in on Billy's class, just to see what all the laughter was about. I'm afraid Billy has never been the same since.
This is based on a true story, well almost. Don
Where is the 'expanding universe' expanding to? I don't know. It is beyond science to observe and test. In relation to String Theory, as an explanation for this expansion, again, being beyond science, I can only offer a philosophical explanation. In String Theory, there are 10 spacial dimensions + 1 time dimension. At one point, all of these dimensions were tightly curled up, 'compactified', to the minimal size, Planck length or Planck space, and thus totally unobservable. The belief is, that at the point of the 'Big Bang' event, 3 of the spacial dimensions and the 1 time dimension 'uncurled' and produced the dimensions we now experience as length, breadth, height and time. How big are these dimensions? How long is the proverbial 'piece of string'? It is as long or big as you can measure. My thinking of the continual expansion is that these 3 spacial dimensions are still unfurling and the universe is 'expanding' into this new unfurled 'space'. How far will it expand? Again, how long is a piece of string?
Hope that helps to answer your question to some degree. Again, I emphasise that this response is purely philosophical, as it is beyond science to test or observe. The question that is still being asked (by some) is, "what caused these 3 spacial and 1 time dimension to unfurl in the first place?"
Have a good day!