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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartman
    Matt actually DOES have Scripture that states his position, in stark contrast to trinitarian theories.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneZ View Post
    Yours is in stark contrast to the Trinitarian understanding.
    Of course, I believe the Scriptures, rather than pagan theories.

    John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


    The rest of your post is also just opinion, without a shred of Scriptural evidence.
    "One" in John 17:20-22 is "hen", that the believer is hen/one EVEN AS Jesus and his God are hen/one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blain View Post
    the trinity father spirit son is debated often. Ppl say jesus is not god only the father is but if that is true then i have a question. Do recal how Jesus forgave sins? how he said plainly your sins are forgiven? I thought only God could forgive sins. So if Jesus is not god not only did he blasphemy but he then sinned and so was not fit to die on the cross for us.

    So... anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blain View Post
    the trinity father spirit son is debated often. Ppl say jesus is not god only the father is but if that is true then i have a question. Do recal how Jesus forgave sins? how he said plainly your sins are forgiven? I thought only God could forgive sins. So if Jesus is not god not only did he blasphemy but he then sinned and so was not fit to die on the cross for us.

    So... anyone?
    I do not "deny" Jesus is God. Jesus eliminated that possibility in John 17:3, then re-iterated who my God is in John 20:17. So, better to say, "I do not promote Jesus to be God."

    Especially based on forgiving sins.

    Luke 17:3-4 Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him,and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, saying, I repent, you must forgive him.

    2 Corinthians 2:10 Anyone whom you forgive, I also forgive. Indeed, what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sake in the presence of Christ,

    John 20:23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.

    Jesus did not promote others to the mythical "Godhead", did he?
    "You [the Father], the Only True God" -- Jesus Christ (1st Century CE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1an View Post
    You are 1 person and you are (presumably) father, son and spirit.
    The Trinity isn't one person. At one time (and for a period of four years) you insisted that the Trinity is "One person". Since you've repudiated that belief (calling it a typo), do you also repudiate this one?
    The hound of Jewish monotheism.

    "For us there is one God. He is the Father." (I Corinthians 8:6)

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    The real question never asked?

    Why should God should choose to be a Trinity?

    And?

    Could we have a close and personal relationship with God if He were not a Trinity?

    How?
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    one in heaven, and the other
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattathias View Post
    The Trinity isn't one person. At one time (and for a period of four years) you insisted that the Trinity is "One person". Since you've repudiated that belief (calling it a typo), do you also repudiate this one?
    Can you not understand that some people are father, mother, and breadwinner while being 1 person.
    God who came to his own said, "Thou shalt not kill,"
    but Yahweh said, "thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth." Deu 20:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1an View Post
    Can you not understand that some people are father, mother, and breadwinner while being 1 person.
    Since the Trinity isn't 1 person, what is your point?
    The hound of Jewish monotheism.

    "For us there is one God. He is the Father." (I Corinthians 8:6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattathias View Post
    Since the Trinity isn't 1 person, what is your point?
    One person fulfilling three rolls.
    God who came to his own said, "Thou shalt not kill,"
    but Yahweh said, "thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth." Deu 20:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1an View Post
    One person fulfilling three rolls.
    Doesn't work with Trinitarian theology.

    The Trinity isn't "one person fulfilling three roles".
    The hound of Jewish monotheism.

    "For us there is one God. He is the Father." (I Corinthians 8:6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattathias View Post
    Doesn't work with Trinitarian theology.
    Of course it does when that one person is father, mother and provider, caring for their children.
    God who came to his own said, "Thou shalt not kill,"
    but Yahweh said, "thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth." Deu 20:16

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